After the Webinar: The Benefits of Correctional Intelligence Led Policing. Q&A with the Presenters

Webinar presenters Gabrielle Padilla and Chris Eloiza answered a number of your questions after their presentation, The Benefits of Correctional Intelligence-Led Policing.  Here are just a few of their responses.


Audience Question: How many intelligence analysts does IDOC have at its disposal? 

Chris Eloiza: So, ultimately, we have approximately 28 analysts, we’ve got one to three in each of our correctional facilities, depending on the size of the facility. And we have eight Correctional Intelligence Analyst at our central location and central office. We’ve also kind of implemented the analysts into our Parole division, which has been more than successful, combining the facility analysts with our parole analysts to kind of help overlap that information & data intelligence gathered.



Audience Question:  Do you share intelligence with any other non-law enforcement type organizations? In this case, they are asking about probation departments, and if so, can you describe how that relationship works and how it even started? 

Gabrielle Padilla: Sure. So, we absolutely do. We’re very fortunate in that sense. We have some partnerships established with some of our probation offices. I think for us, really how we establish that it was just we kind of reached out, took that first step, we realized we have a lot of overlap between our people that are discharging to probation and the criminal activity that is going on. So, we’re seeing an overlap when they’re coming out of our prison to that probations and parole, which basically led to us, taking that step to say, Hey, can we work together?

Chris Eloiza: And to add to that, we mentioned earlier to invite for briefings or meetings, it’s something that we do, and not only that other agencies, specifically our city here. Our police department creates those opportunities to sit-in, see what they’re working on and any requests they have. So, it’s kind of two-sided. We invite other agencies and ultimately meet each other and understand those points of contact.



Audience Question: So, how do you get started in working with law enforcement for sharing this information? Are you reaching out to the chief? What does that mechanical point of contact that you start that conversation with them at? 

Chris Eloiza: So, a great example of this is, if we have actionable intelligence or information that would benefit a specific jurisdiction and we have no points of contact, I resort to calling the dispatch or the police department itself, saying who I am, and what kind of information I have, and just let them take me to who I need to talk to. And once you establish that communication, you now have a point of contact in that jurisdiction, that you can come back to in any future information or intelligence sharing.

Gabrielle Padilla: And then, oftentimes, we found that our law enforcement contacts that we already have a partnership with, may be able to put us in contact with one of their contacts in a different jurisdiction. So, also utilizing any of your current contacts can kind of help you branch out. That’s a big thing, that kind of word of mouth. But I think we’re kind of relentless and trying to find contacts and everybody has been willing to kind of work with us.


Audience Question: Do you often see correctional officers, counselors, or POs being the ones trafficking the contraband in your facilities? And if so, do you have a special process for those? 

Chris Eloiza: That is definitely a challenge that we combat here, I’m sure it’s very common in other places. So, the question to the first part is, yes, we do have that. You know, a lot of factors play a role in not only identifying those individuals but also having enough evidence or supporting evidence to then confront them. But I would say that some of those factors are establishing rapport with the offender population, having that avenue of human intelligence to where you start getting the word of mouth of what’s happening. As well as, you know, running some of these staff members’ phone numbers through your systems. A lot of times, you know, it may not be on an inmate’s list, but an inmate can verbally share the number of parts and pieces of the number to identify that person. And then last, but definitely not least is, just using all resources available, whether that’s open-source, any other data mining tool that you may have available to you to then validate that information to be able to act on it.



Audience Question:  Are you able to talk about what kind of intelligent software that you utilize? 

Gabrielle Padilla: So, as far as kind of the programs that we utilize for the Indiana Department of Corrections, GPL is going to be the vendor. So, we have recorded telephone calls, we have electronic messaging, video visitation, financial payment, along with the different internal databases. So, there is different case management, SAS, which kind of is an internal tool for us. And then, I know a lot of intelligence units, they may have access to things like I2 or some nice, fancy link analysis programs. We don’t have any of that. We are using, Word or PowerPoint to create our products, which not knocking it. That works great. But we also have a partnership with the Fusion Center where we can get access to that I2 if needed or any of those PLO LexisNexis.




Audience Question: How can we find out about what the street value of a product is versus the value in the corrections? I think one is referring to that one slide that you had a few ago that showed if my math is right about 50 times the street value when it’s in their facility. 

Gabrielle Padilla: Sure, So I would definitely say, depending on your region, that’s going to vary a little bit. So definitely knowing your area and kind of establishing those contacts, whether that’s with law enforcement, who may know what your street value price is or whether that’s your correctional partners, that may be able to gauge that price of the drug inside. I know for us, for Indiana Department of Corrections, we can get a pretty good gauge by asking our facilities. They have a good idea of how much each drug is going for within their facility present-day. And that may vary a little bit per facility. But there’s usually a general baseline across all of the facilities here.

Chris Eloiza: And with the example provided in the presentation. Suboxone is and I’m sure it’s very common knowledge is a, it’s a prescription. So, finding out how much you know the patients are paying for this prescription led to the results of the information there on the presentation.



Audience Question: I am a Canadian Security Intelligence Officer and Gang Coordinator. I’m wondering if you encounter any limitations on sharing of information including CCTV footage, audio calls, data, due to the Privacy Act? 

Chris Eloiza: We have not. I think the biggest kind of protection for us, is that these individuals that are communicating with our offenders are given that notice that they are being recorded. And also, our offenders, their privacy is very minimum when it comes to the safety and security of the facility, let alone criminal activities. So, to answer that we have not had any issues or challenges in regards to sharing the information that we’re receiving.

Gabrielle Padilla: And when working with our law enforcement partners, while we don’t require it, if it’s something that they know there’s going to be criminal charges pending from it, they can always serve a subpoena, and then we can provide the record through that avenue that way it’s certified.


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